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 By bluejay

11/18/2010  1:14AM

Gold and silver pushing higher in Asian and London markets.

Gold $1357.30 UP %21.50
Silver $26.51 UP $ 0.86
 By bluejay

11/17/2010  11:39AM

Gold $1335.60
Silver $25.57

The following was released this morning from John Williams from shadowstats.com:

Gold and Silver Highs Adjusted for CPI-U/SGS Inflation. Despite November 9th's historic high gold price of $1,421.00 per troy ounce (London afternoon fix) and multi-decade high silver price of $28.55 per troy ounce (London fix), gold and silver prices have yet to approach their historic high levels, adjusted for inflation. The earlier all-time high of $850.00 (London afternoon fix, per Kitco.com) of January 21, 1980 would be $2,390 per troy ounce, based on October 2010 CPI-U-adjusted dollars, and would be $7,824 per troy ounce in terms of SGS-Alternate-CPI-adjusted dollars (all series not seasonally adjusted).

In like manner, the all-time high price for silver in January 1980 of $49.45 per troy ounce (London afternoon fix, per silverinstitute.org) has not been hit since, including in terms of inflation-adjusted dollars. Based on October 2010 CPI-U inflation, the 1980 silver price peak would be $139 per troy ounce and would be $455 per troy ounce in terms of SGS-Alternate-CPI-adjusted dollars (again, all series not seasonally adjusted).
 By bluejay

11/17/2010  10:13AM

Gold $1339.00
Silver $25.67

From Bob Chapman's International Forecaster(not the International Investor as erroneously posted last night) this morning:

Monday, just like on Friday,
the Comex again raised margin requirements on silver from $6,700 to $10,000 a contract and on gold from $5,700 to $6,000. That is to allow the shorts to drive both metals down, so the shorts can cover and restrict their losses. It does not get any more blatant than this. Cross-market manipulation.
 By bluejay

11/17/2010  12:40AM

Gold $1331
Silver $25.07

Bob Chapman of the International Investor says the big short in these markets is the government. Chapman adds that it doesn't bother them being heavily short with naked paper sales because if they eventually get boxed in with continuing new highs, it's just the public's money in the end.
 By bluejay

11/15/2010  7:43PM

In the prior contribution re silver dollars, was referring to the Morgan and Peace 90% silver coins.

The follwing is an informative listen, if you can spare the time it's worth it:

http://bobchapman.blogspot.com/2010/11/bob-chapman-on-sovereign-economist-10.html
 By bluejay

11/15/2010  4:57PM

Gold $1358.90
Silver $25.53

Both metals came under selling pressure today as the Dollar Index rose, closing at 78.68. It appears that Wall Street's trading houses(the banks) have been buying the dollar as there is far too much negativism in short term for its impending collapase. Too many shorts are in the boat for the moment and these trading concerns thought they would shake it a little for hopeful profits, it may have worked.

As the dollar strengthens it usually makes gold cheaper as was the case today as it's off about 10 bucks. The Dollar Index may be heading higher in the days ahead, at least, into the 80 to 82 zone on the chart. This type of action would most certainly encourage futher selling of gold, as well as in silver.

A few days back, or so, it was discussed that gold was brushing close up against monthly resistance in the $1440 to $1480 area. At the time the following should have been included concerning silver, silver's monthly top on its ascending channel line of the chart is in the area from $29 to $30.

Today, at around $25.50 its down about 13 1/2% from the recent high of $29.50. Silver, unlike gold, is quickly disappearing from above-the-ground inventories. In 1942 the Treasury had 3 billion ounces. Today, it has none. For the year 1940, above the ground supplies of silver in the hands of governments were 10 billion ounces. Currently, above the ground silver supplies amount to less than 1 billion ounces.

The current annual world demand for silver is 900 million ounces with only about 480 million of those ounces being supplied by the mines. So it only makes sense to say that, inventories will dwindle further as the years go forward.

Where is the silver going? It is being used up by industry. There are so many growing uses for the metal that it boggles the mind to wonder where the new source will be one day when earth's below-the-ground resources have been largely depleted. The U.S. Geological Survey estimates that there are just 8.5 to 18 billion ounces left to be mined.

Folks would be surprised what silver is being used for these days. Just research silver uses and be enlightened. When you're on the Internet search Robert Kiyosaki silver to get the true story concerning silver's price future. Robert Kiyosaki is a self-made multi-millionaire and who is most probably worth north of the billion dollar mark.

With Christmas closing in on all of us, the best gift, IMO, for a child remains a few silver dollars for his or her stockings.

Just bought some silver dollars at a good price today. If you would like the source in Tacoma, Rae should be able to furnish my e-mail address.
 By bluejay

11/14/2010  3:11PM

What is the expected potential for price weakness going forward in gold as the dark forces, apparently, are at it again?

Did they not learn their lesson in 2009 when they were severly beaten, like Napoleon was at Waterloo in 1815, when the $1000 ceiling on gold imploded? With the realistic chances being nil of gold bullion being sold by the IMF or any other country, their going to have to come up with a lot more than jaw-boning futures exchanges to raise margin requirements and continuing their usual media blitz.

To be honest, after following markets for years, especially, following the tracks of the inventive cabal, they always seem to come up with new tricks to flush the gold market. Something has changed this time, from a recent low-point at $1150 in August of this year, strong relentness buying took the metal up to close to $1400 six weeks ago. This type of buying, minus but one small reaction of, maybe, 30 dollars had not been seen since late in 1979 when gold was in the process of doubling during a short period of six weeks, to $850.

So if gold does remain weak next week and beyond during its bull market, we can look for some excellent support around the $1300 level. Below that, the general $1250 area is much stronger.

For folks looking to buy either gold stocks or gold bullion coins, 15% should have already been committed as of last Friday. Going forward, Another 50% should be used for scaling down to the $1300 level. Following that, if gold continues its retreat the remaining funds should be in place for final purchases lower into the general area of $1250.

Disclosure:

I personally trade 5% of our long term position, never the bullion coins. On the day gold hit $1420 certain gold shares were liquidated and beginning Friday, a small portion of the funds were recommitted to two issues. On Saturday a small portion of silver bullion coins were acquired. The balance of the proceeds are awaiting lower prices or possibly, higher prices if gold has a shallow continuing reaction.
 By bluejay

11/13/2010  10:41PM

James Turk made the following comments November 11, 2010 while interviewing David Morgan at goldmoney.com:

James Turk:

"Well, my long term view is that by 2013 to 2015 gold is going to be 8,000 $/ounce and if you accept that, as I do, that the ratio(gold to silver) is going to fall and go below 20, even if you take the ratio of 20, 8,000 dollar gold means 400 dollar silver. I think that is a very reasonable target. You know when I first did that forecast of 8,000, back in 2003; there were a couple of aspects to it. One is that in 2003, gold was about 350 $/ounce and it took 10 dollars in 2003 to equal what the purchasing power was of 1 dollar in 1971, so if gold could go from 35 dollars to 800, on an inflation adjusted basis it could go from 350 to 8,000. It is basically saying that history is going to repeat on an inflation adjusted basis. So I don't think it is unreasonable of a silver price of 400 $/ounce or perhaps even more, if the ratio goes even below 20, because I think 8,000 $/ounce gold is not an unreasonable target by 2013 or 2015. So bottom line, we're both very very bullish, both on gold and on silver, but particularly bullish on silver."

David Morgan: "Exactly."
 By bluejay

11/13/2010  8:57AM

From the Weekend Edition of the Casey Daily Dispatch:

Given that the combined size of global stock and bond markets is on the order of $120 trillion – with trillions more at risk in faltering dollars and other fiat currencies – it doesn’t take an Einstein to figure out that even a slight additional shift towards the precious metals will send them soaring.
 By bluejay

11/12/2010  9:17PM

Weekly Closes

Gold $1368.80 Off $40.01 or 2.85%
Silver $26.04 Off $ 1.64 or 6%

For the past three days the large producing countries met in South Korea to iron out their difference, mainly in respect to each other's currencies and how it is being negatively felt in reduced exports comcommitantly with struggling economies.

Currently, the floating exchange rates lack an anchor which really allows them to gyrate as a result on the whims of the marketplace, far in the excess of what most would prefer.

The root of the problem is that politicians will be politicians and really nothing changes except the intensity of the finger pointing when events threaten their security. We have far too many lawyers as politicians, as opposed to economists, who really never understand that in order to correctly manage an economy one must first be aware of how each of its internal parts functions as well as it being joined at the hip internationally with other countries.

In the final day of the G-20 meeting not much of anything worth mentioning was accomplished. To cover up their apparent confusion and continuing differences of opinion, Uncle Sam's caretakers decided to pressure gold and silver lower in hopes of moulding people's minds that this great meeting of member minds had found a solution to today's currency and economic upheavals.

It appears that the gold and silver face saving sell-off may be nearing its end.

In the past few days something different in the markets has been taking place: the big gold and silver stocks have been holding recent gains. This doesn't surprise close observers, as recently all-time highs in both the XAU and HUI Ixdexes have been established putting pressure on the shorts. Their game, selling the stocks short and buying the bullion, had been working for the hedge funds and the banks for a while but it now seems they are trapped with nowhere to hide.

It is viewed that the smart money is betting on increasing gold prices overall to influence the big producer share prices which have lagged in performance, to some degree over past years. The expected higher share prices will be supported by producer realized sales above $1200. Very few realize that today's major golds will be the blue chip stocks of tomorrow in everyone's portfolio.

It is expected that the cartel propaganda machines will be berating gold and silver related investments over the weekend in preparation for supporting the continuation of falling metal prices next week.

Don't be fooled by weakness: weakness has always been used as a buying opportunity in bull markets. The only question that really remains is, the extent of this forced rout.
 By bluejay

11/09/2010  6:45PM

Gold $1402.10
Silver $27.58

Gold and silver were hit with some selling late today as a result of the CME raising margins for maintaining silver positions 30%, from $5000 to $6500.

The experienced Jim Sinclair at http://www.jsmineset.com in his article entitled, "CME Group Announces Money and Margin Requirement Increases" delves deeply into this issue. The report is quite educational and well worth the read.
 By bluejay

11/09/2010  5:51AM

Gold $1418.70 UP 8.50
Silver $28.47 UP 0.71

Gold has entered Mr. Martin Armstrong's indicated resistance zone of 1440 to 1480 with its high earlier this morning at 1423.40.

In Mr. Armstrong's mid September article, "An 11 Year High for 2010?," he speaks of this area as being overhead resistance in the form of converging trendlines including the top of gold's monthly ascending channel. In the report he discusses the probability for a normal reaction following contact with this area.

Mr. Armstrong's caveat is that 'if" gold trades right through this zone, it will never look back. As a comparison of what can happen, he posted a chart configuration of similiar convering trendlines, including the monthly top channel line on the Dow Jones Average chart from 1985. When the DOW bettered this almost identical trendline set-up as gold now finds itself in with its 1440 to 1480 area, the DOW moved from its breakout point at 1,700 to 14,000 over two decades.

As oddly as it may sound, gold could be a better buy higher if it fails to take a normal reaction following its recent run than buying in here as it makes contact with a very important milestone. If a reaction sets in, there will be opportunities to buy the metal lower. If a reaction fails and gold does surmount this suspected barrier, it will be well worth paying the insurance as the rewards will be spectacular.

Just heard on Bloomberg that Goldman Sachs is forecasting 1650 gold. It seems, by using a little contrary reasoning, Goldman may be setting up the market for a short term drop as it touts the metal going higher. When is the last time Goldman Sachs did the public any favors? Goldman reads Martin Armstrong as do others.

Just as a side note, Mr. James Sinclair was the first one who predicted $1650 gold and that's when it much much lower.
 By bluejay

11/08/2010  9:50AM

Check out the latest educational video from: http://inflation.us/videos.html
 By bluejay

11/08/2010  9:37AM

Does anyone have any doubt that gold and silver is the place to be as a hedge against your wealth destruction while the Fed continues to debase our currency?

Gold $1406.40 UP 12.30
Silver $27.56 UP 0.80
 By bluejay

11/07/2010  1:23PM

Weekly closes:

Gold 1,394.10
Silver 26.76

It seems quite apparent that the price suppression schemes in gold and silver of past years have for at least, temporarily, ended. What has been observed is that the cartel is slowly throwing in the towel by covering their short sales at losses and rethinking their current outstanding short positions.

What may well prove to be, IMO, the tip of the iceberg of deceit is coming to light as just this past Tuesday, November 2, 2010, in a U.S. District court of New York two silver market participants, J.P. Morgan and HSBC, are being accused of conspiracy to manipulate metal prices in a class action suit over the past three years, starting in June of 2008.

Aside from this topic, I recently learned that a depositor with his savings at a HSBC bank in New York City requested $20,000 one day. The branch told him he could not get it all. At the end of the day, he had to go to a total of six different HSBC branches in NYC for his money.

What's going on here? Are the branches out of cash? My mother in Canada had the same problem on a request for $12,000 from her Canadian bank. It would certainly appear that people are pulling there funds out of the banks and as a result, some of the banks have a cash shortage. Just imagine, what would happen if someone wanted to close their account and take their $100,000 or more with them?

In some background to the price fixing suit; in the month of June of 2008 gold was readying for another attempt at breaching the $1,000 level. At about the same time silver was trading in the range between $18 and $20 an ounce. What better time for the market crooks to start manipulating prices lower from these psychological round numbered areas? Apparently, this is exactly what took place not only by J.P. Morgan and HSBC but, probably, other banks, as well. Remember, the Glass Steagal Act was ablolished by Clinton as a result of prodding by the banksters so they could get back into the stock trading business and begin rolling the dice again.

In the general period from June of 2008 to October of 2008, gold collapsed from over $1000 to just about $700 per ounce. Silver fared worse, spiralling down abruptly from about $20 to just under $9.

The cruel part of this alleged price fixing scheme did not really end with the gold and silver prices but continued with more devastation with the related leveraged plays: options on the metals, the gold and silver shares along with their options.

During this period the XAU Index (Philadelphia Gold and Silver Index) was beaten down from just above 200 on the chart to 62, a drop of 70% while gold was off some 30% and silver got dripped up in the excess of 50%. The little explorers fared far worse, one of my holding took a savage beating of about 94% during this period.

Billions and billions of dollars were stolen by the suspected involved banks from the public, one the biggest heists of all-time, and who went to jail for this suspected crime against mankind? Well, you tell me.

If history is any indication of how this massive heist by the dark side works itself out against the unbeknowst unprepared public, then the yet to be convicted miscreants will just end up with a slap on their wrists and a small fines. Or, will the courts do the right thing?

Don't expect much as most judges and our representatives in government are plainly, just paid ranch hands controlled by puppet pulling strings from behind the curtain .

You protect yourselves against these evils by holding gold and silver and never, never let the fear of sell-offs effect your thinking as long as gold and silver remain in their bull markets.

Oh by the way, the October 2008 5 cent stock now sells for $1.32. Methodically take advantage of dips in gold and silver and their related shares as opportunities to buy more.
 By bluejay

11/04/2010  1:10PM

Gold selling for all-time high, last $1393.10.

Silver getting much stronger at $26.26, up $1.42.
 By bluejay

11/04/2010  12:01PM

ALERT

The widely followed gold stock index, HUI, has bettered a connecting line of historical yearly highs. It strongly appears the corral gate has been opened and the herd is poised to stampede higher.

The timing couldn't be better for a news release to advise the world that are heart is still beating which will bring in buyers to positively effect our low share price.

Let's get OSTO moving!
 By bluejay

11/03/2010  7:15PM

A follow-up to the wild action is gold and silver today as Jim Sinclair was interviewed by Eric King:

With the Fed announcement today and the resulting tremendous volatility in gold and silver, King World News interviewed the legendary Jim Sinclair. When asked about the action in gold Sinclair responded, “We had two periods today where the offerings were being made in huge amounts and the bids were running for cover. I mean it’s your standard manipulation. But you can be sure that there is a designed effort to hold the dollar and to oppose gold going to the positive side so that the action of the Federal Reserve will not be analyzed as extreme, even thought it is.”
November 3, 2010

Jim Sinclair continues:

“I think the most salient point of what has taken place today is not the number but more so the fact that the Fed took a stand in the face of both national and international, in fact fierce international criticism of the policy.”

How did you know that there was going to be a large number for QE?

“Well you have to get a feel from people who do business with the Fed on a day to day basis, and what they found unusual was that Bernanke actually came out well before the meeting and gave an indication of exactly what he had intended to do. Now you have to look at what the cost would be of backing off from that. And you really wonder whether or not Bernanke actually set up all of this criticism, to come out and look for the first time like a very strong Fed, even if their direction might be misguided.

I don’t think QE is good, and I wouldn’t defend the economics of it but I don’t think there was any alternative. The need for the QE basically to infinity and that’s I think what you can call today as a watershed event, the need basically is because the balance sheets of the financial community are all a product of FASB’s permission to value assets that don’t exist, that aren’t there, that are entirely fabricated.

The Fed has a better picture of the financial condition of US entities than any central bank anywhere. The Fed has the entire picture of what it’s holding on its balance sheet, the Fed knows the extent and difficulty of the problem. The Fed has kicked the can down the road one more time because there is no other choice.

If the Fed hadn’t acted to bail out the international investment banks when the over the counter derivative meltdown first came, you would have had a roll over you wouldn’t believe. So you are stuck between a rock and a hard place, it isn’t right what they are doing but there is no other alternative.”

Why was QE reported at $600 billion when it is really $900 billion?

“Because that’s management of perspective economics.”

Are we in a depression?

“We are in unchartered waters with business folding over. We don’t know what the name will be for this. One thing we do know is it’s not dollar positive and that the only insurance out there that would react positively to things we can’t control such as Fed decisions is gold.”

Is it ok to let gold run in a day or two?

“I don’t think you can really control it. I think that gold will run but as of today, whenever the boss speaks, we’ll call him the financial boss, there is always intervention to make the boss look good. It’s never failed, it will always be so, and it is so today.”

When asked about the US dollar Sinclair responded, “72 right now is the price objective, then I think some modest strength, and then into the sixties.”

Jim Sinclair also mentioned the dollar index, “could eventually fall to 56.”

But theoretically if we can hold in that level and that’s the low, it’s not the end of the world?

“I don’t think it has to be the end of the world, I think it’s the end of doing business as has been done. I think it’s the tail end of the darkest period we have ever had in finance and the dollar will reflect that.”

When asked about how his father Bert Seligman and his business partner Jesse Livermore would be trading gold going forward Sinclair responded, “I believe firmly that Bert would have considered it (today) a bottom, and now they (Bert and Jesse) would be looking to pick it up on any dips.”

Well there you have it from one of the greats, gold has bottomed. Assuming Sinclair is correct, for all of you dip buyers, if you blinked you missed it.

Eric King
KingWorldNews.com
 By bluejay

11/03/2010  2:16PM

Gold $1348.60
Silver $24.87

The gold and silver markets were subject to volatility in today's session with two dive bomber attacks conducted by the usual price suppressing culprits followed by assertive "right back in your face" buying. Whoever instigated these selling waves, they failed miserably which speaks loadly to the strength of these markets.

The selling waves took gold from 1365 to 1330 and from 1345 to 1325. Regarding silver, the metal traded lower from 25 to 23.95 and again from 24.73 to 24.32.

Sorry boys, no cigar today.
 By bluejay

10/23/2010  11:44PM

Gold $1327.70
Silver $23.29

The gold price has been easing since hitting $1388 or so some days back as the $1400 plus area seemed to be a logical area to pause. Just above $1400 is a major intermediate resistance level posed by the top of an ascending trend channel line. Martin Armstrong has stated that if this channel line is broken with higher prices then gold would be expected to advance sharply following a minor reaction back to the point of penetration. Even though gold could easily remain weak for a while as it catches its breathe, there has been some stirring of interest in a few companies with gold interests in California.

Since Rockroby's mention of North Bay Resource's October 4th acquisition of the Ruby Mine, a few of the companies holding gold properties in the State have been reviewed.

1) Emgold Mining Corp(EMR-TSXV) $0.22 Canadian appears preparing to advance into a new uptrend from the $0.18 to $0.22 area. In a recent interview of its president it was stated that he is committed to securing all permits for bringing back the Idaho-Maryland Mine to production, again.

2) The Sutter Gold Mining Company(SGM-TSXV) $0.21 Canadian in Amador County continues to receive permits which is very likely to result in gold mining at the Lincoln-Comet section of the Lincoln Project. In the past few weeks SGM has advanced about 100% from near to the $0.10 level.

3) In a surprise, http://www.bigcharts.com has elected to return the Original Sixteen To One Mine Inc. to its list of followed stocks. Big Charts had not carried OSTO stock trading statistics from the Pink Sheets for some years now. Looking over the grossly under-valued Pink Sheet trading data, the shares recently moved above the 1000 day average of their's at the $0.175 area with a last of $0.18.

One only has to understand how OTC traders pay their mortgages, they make most of it on shorting low priced shares which our company qualifies under. While our market at the mine office is $0.50 bid with an offering of $0.89 with 3,000 shares wanted and 5,000 offered, the OTC dealer continues to ignore our higher bid.

It is sad that public sell orders at the market never see the light of day of a superior bid that conflicts with the intention of the OTC dealer to keep our shares low for his profit motive, or agenda to steal money from the unsuspecting public selling our shares.

All the company would have to do to partly correct this unfairness would be to issue a press release quoting the company's geologist as to the potential of our mining properties.

We are now entering a period of increasing public interest in the gold sector. There are potential investors checking out ALL companies gold related now and it would be nice by issuing a news release concerning the company so to inform them that our heart is still beating.

Even North Bay Resources(NBRI-OTC) $0.027 U.S. shares responded with increased volume to its recent news release which aided in stimulating public awareness to its existance. Even NBRI's chart is indicating that an important bottom has been established. The stock is certainly very low priced but looks attracrive on any reaction into the $0.019 to $0.021 range.

No one knows exactly where this current gold price weakness will end but scale down buying on ANY gold reaction since 2001 has proven the winner.

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