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 By bluejay

09/15/2009  12:33PM

Where do you think all this expanding debt is leading us?

http://www.truthin08.org/widget/

When this debt bubble bursts owning gold affiliated companies or having the metal in your sole possession will help keep you and your family afloat as the financial tsunami that follows will surely put Main Street America underwater.

Believing in Washington's magic show will leave you baffled and confused when this event comes to pass. Actually, you might just start laughing in disbelief as did the Roman's when they had to come to terms with their Empire's demise as a result of towering debt that just couldn't be serviced anymore.
 By bluejay

09/15/2009  11:15AM

Last on gold is $1008.90.

The following supplied link give perspective in chart form to some items that may be of interest to you.

http://agoracom.com/ir/ECU/forums/discussion/topics/363806-a-few-charts/messages/1216306#message
 By Dave I.

09/13/2009  10:16PM

A Book: "THE GOLD STANDARD IN THEORY AND HISTORY", edited by Barry Eichengreen.
This book is an excellent study of how the world backs the value of our money. Gold is still part of it, but there are other Commodities and the consumer price index as away of stabilizing the money of the world. In China the labor market is a commodity, that is now backed by dollars.
The principle of having multiple items of value to back the dollar, or any currency gives a better balance to stabilize monetary value, as well as increase trade with funds to make the trade work. Gold is basically a hedge when inflation expands. The actual flight to over invest in Gold as a hedge does more to destabilize monetary value.
 By bluejay

09/13/2009  11:53AM

U.S. Dollar closed at 76.64, off 1.53 for the week.

Check out the US dollar chart at the following link: http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/US/W

What you will be seeing is a chart of a "train wreck" very similiar to the Enron and Fannie Mae charts prior to their collapse. The dollar has been fighting with heavy overhead resistance in the 90 to 92 area for the past five years. I view this trading pattern as representing a vast amount of pent-up negative energy just waiting to be released to the downside in what should be an historic short term wipeout. Got your gold?

It seems that the last quarter of past trading years for the greenback has usually pointed lower, all with the execption of 2008. Late last year's strength was attributed to the percieved "safe heaven" dollar buying as the Eastern European banking sector melted down.

Austrian and the Netherlandic bank loans to the developing nations in Eastern Europe were especially high with 80% and 66% of their GDP, respectively. Most of Eastern European problems emanated from the world collapse of the Collateralized Debt Obligations compliments of the American Investment Bankers, including AIG.

These are my feelings based on the condition of the US dollar chart, all hell is about ready to break loose on the downside. The only question that remains is how high will the 98 1/2% of Americans who already don't hold gold take it when they finally accept the truth that their dollar denominated wealth is in the process of being destroyed?

As Martin Armstrong has stated many times, "Debt equals the destroyer of civilizations."

China has been sitting on the alarm button for months now. Calling its gold home is one of the most significant developments in recent years that should alert responsible folks that big financial shifts have already started.

The Wall Street money junkies have ruined it for all of us. There is no leadership in Washington or statesmen anymore. Moral decay is at its height being fostered by an arrogant government that continues to be absorbed by its needs for more power and greed.

I heard the other day that 98% of Americans were against bailing out the banks. Henry Paulson is what's wrong with this country and what does Congress do about him and his likes? They do nothing because our representatives take their orders from Goldman Sachs and the other Wall Street Banksters. Why doesn't Obama do something about this cancer in our system? Would it have anything to do with the $1,000,000 that Goldman contributed to his campaign?

Each and every American is responsible for $235,000 of the nation's sky-high debt. One can only wonder what'll it be next year at this time?

What does this mean for people who are broke? Does this mean in the future that our children and our grandchildren will be in servitude to the banks or the government? Does this mean a return to feudalism and slavery for the masses?

Capitalism is the only system that really works. Then I ask you the following question, why does Wen Jiabao, Premier of China support captalism to a far greater extent than our own president????

Rome made great accomplishments during it day as did the US, but in the end the Romans were choked to death by TOO MUCH DEBT.

This is the reason why the dollar has much farther to go to on the downside, TOO MUCH DEBT.
 By bluejay

09/12/2009  10:21AM

Something that may have eluded us, gold with a close on Friday of $1005.10 set an all-time high weekly close.

Is gold establishing some sound footing in and about the $1000 area with emphasis coming from China readying itself for sustained upward momentum in the months ahead? The following link provides us with some proof that such an event is quite likely:

http://mineweb.co.za/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/page72068?oid=89018&sn=Detail
 By bluejay

09/09/2009  11:22PM

Last on gold is $996.20.

Another stupid statement intended to mislead the public, this time from the Fed chairman.

Recent comments from John Embry, Sprott Asset Management with the contained dense statement from Chairman Bernanke.

One of the most outrageous comments that I have seen in a long time was Bernanke’s testimony to Congress recently when he said, “We also believe that it is important to assure the public and market that the extraordinary policy measures we have taken in response to the financial crisis and the recession can be withdrawn in a smooth and timely manner as needed to avoid the risk that this policy could lead to a future rise in inflation.”

That's just an outright lie. They can't possibly withdraw the stimulus. If they did – either raise interest rates or shrink the Fed balance sheet- the economy and the financial system would collapse.
 By bluejay

09/09/2009  7:12PM

Last on gold is $992.40.

Think about the following statements each time gold gets soft under $1,000.

Jim Sinclair’s Commentary

Into Gold. That is an interesting comment.

China Raises the Money-Printing Alarm
Published: Tuesday, 8 Sep 2009 | 4:40 PM ET

At a conference in Lake Como, Italy, a leading Chinese economic spokesman—Cheng Siwei—criticized Ben Bernanke’s loose monetary policy. “If they keep printing money to buy bonds it will lead to inflation,” said Cheng, “and after a year or two the dollar will fall hard.” Cheng went on to say that China was diversifying its roughly $700 billion of U.S. foreign-exchange reserves into gold. “Gold is definitely an alternative, but when we buy, the price goes up,” he said. “We have to do it carefully so as not to stimulate the market.”
 By bluejay

09/09/2009  9:02AM

Last on gold is $999.20.

As we hover in the 1000 area on gold and threaten to move into all-time high territory out come the stupid statements:

What is fascinating is the extent to which gold still holds reign over the financial system as the ultimate source of payment,” Greenspan said. This guy is as looney as the Water Board.

And not to forget another related stupid statement recently by the CRWQCB: The Original Sixteen to One is a "shell company(new spokesperson for the SEC?)." Senator Wiggins in Sacramento got an earfull about this one last night.
 By bluejay

09/08/2009  6:40PM

last on gold is $1001.00.

Barrick announces plan to eliminate gold hedges.

In an agreement with a syndicate of underwriters Barrick will sell 81.2 million shares representing an amount of $3 billion at $36.55 a share. $1.9 billion of the amount will be used for retiring its hedge positions.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=MW&date=20090908&id=10372575

Isn't it interesting that Barrick has NOW decided to cover the last of their shorts. I remember years ago when Jim Sinclair ran a full page add in a major newspaper warning producers that they should cover their hedges when gold was significantly lower.

Hmmm...I wonder how how much money Barrick's management has cost its shareholders by ignoring that "free" advice from a man who basically called the gold top in 1980.
 By Michael Miller

09/08/2009  8:01AM

Interesting to see gold price increasing when DJI is up $61.59 and PX is up $9.05. I never really understood those financial pundits who claimed that these markets worked in opposition to each other.

Gold remains the loose cannon in international and domestic finances.
 By bluejay

09/08/2009  7:56AM

Last on gold is $1002.70.

For what it's worth, below is the link to the late December 2008 WSJ article on the prediction of a US split-up:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
 By bluejay

09/07/2009  11:02AM

Last on gold is $994.40.

Increasing level of insanity in government, it's not just California.

Lyndon LaRouche made the following comments in late August 2009 for Executive Intelligence Review in a article entiled, America Must Reject Obama's Sellout of the Nation by John Hoefle:

"In reappointing 'Bailout' Ben, Obama is committing himself to the continuing collapse of the dollar and the removal of the dollar as the world reserve currency." LaRouche said, "These moves will quickly and inevitably lead to the complete breakdown of the global monetary system, and civilization itself. The Fed is already bankrupt, due to the actions of Greenspan and Bernanke, and must immediately be put into bankruptcy protection. We should stop all the bailout programs, take back the bailout money already issued, and put the banks into bankruptcy protection. Without such steps, we face a complete disintegration of the system within weeks."

The complete article:

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2009/3634bernanke_usa_pays.html
 By bluejay

09/04/2009  10:34AM

Last on gold is $994.60.

Don't believe the following excerpt, China wants its gold on Chinese soil for another very good reason: Big Wall Street banks are ruining all markets with their flood of paper products and China has had enough.

By Chris Oliver, MarketWatch
HONG KONG (MarketWatch) -- Hong Kong is pulling all its physical gold holdings from depositories in London, transferring them to a high-security depository newly built at the city's airport, in a move that won praise from local traders Thursday.

The facility, industry professionals said, would support Hong Kong's emergence as a Swiss-style trading hub for bullion and would lessen London's status as a key settlement-and-storage center.
 By bluejay

09/03/2009  10:25AM

Gold having a great day.

Last sale is $996.20
 By bluejay

09/03/2009  7:28AM

Last on gold is $981.70.

Significant news from China.

GOLD ANALYSIS
THUNDER ROAD AGAIN
China pushes silver and gold investment to the masses
A report suggests that the Chinese government is pushing the general public into buying gold and silver bullion, which could have a dramatic effect on the markets.

Author: Lawrence Williams
Posted: Thursday , 03 Sep 2009

LONDON -

We are indebted again to Paul Mylchreest's Thunder Road Report for news that will bring big smiles to gold and silver investors everywhere. Apparently China is pushing the idea of buying gold and silver for investment purposes to the general population in the way that Western television sells soap powder. If 1.3 billion Chinese citizens start buying gold and silver, even in tiny quantities, imagine what that will do to the market!

The report notes that China's Central Television, the main state-owned television company, has run a news programme letting the public know how easy it is to buy precious metals as an investment. On silver investment the announcer is quoted as saying " China has introduced its first ever investment opportunity for silver bullion. The bars are available in 500g, 1kg, 2kg and 5kg with a purity of 99.9%. Figures show that gold was fifty times more expensive than silver in 2007, but now that figure has reached over seventy times. Analysts say that silver has been undervalued in recent years. They add that the metal is the right investment for individual investors and could be a good way to cash in."

What appears to have happened in China is a total relaxation of strictures on holding precious metals by the individual with the government pushing gold and silver as an investment option, seemingly at every opportunity. This is a far cry from the situation only a few years ago where the distribution of gold and silver was strictly controlled. Now, the Thunder Road Report notes that every bank will sell gold and silver bullion bars in four different sizes to individuals and gold related investments are said to be soaring in popularity.

Around a year ago, Leyshon Resources managing director, Paul Atherley, in an investor presentation in London - and no doubt delivered elsewhere in the world too - commented that some employees at the company's gold mining project in northern China would, on pay day, go to the local bank and buy a small gold bar as an investment and wealth protector. To an extent we put this down at the time to mining company hype - but this seems to be exactly the same phenomenon noted by Thunder Road. The Chinese are being converted from being the lowest per capita gold consumers in the world to a nation of small precious metals investors. Now, by next year, Chinese consumption of gold is likely to exceed that of India, which has been for years the world's biggest gold market. And one suspects that the potential for gold purchasing by individuals is only in its earliest stages. As more and more Chinese move into the cities and individual wealth grows, this trend is only likely to accelerate.

Paul ends the piece on Chinese gold and silver potential with the following comment: "Simply put, the Chinese government is trying to trigger a national gold craze...and it's working. The Chinese public now has gold trading platforms on steroids.... ...Also, for the first time in history, Chinese investors can even trade gold abroad (in London) with the swipe of a ‘Lucky Gold' card. I can't even get Bank of America to open a foreign currency account."

This may be an overstatement of the case from a precious metals bull - or it may not! Certainly if China is indeed pushing the public to buy gold then there may well be a hidden agenda here. It's unlikely they are doing it and will suddenly pull the rug out from under millions of investors. A cynic (or a raging gold bull) would suggest that this will precede a move to switch a good proportion of the country's reserves into gold which would have a huge effect on the global gold price and could prove disastrous for the dollar. Maybe it's not in China's interests to drive the dollar down too much until it has managed to divest itself of the huge dollar overhang (see the article on Chinese Sovereign Wealth Funds we published yesterday - Chinese sovereign wealth fund dumping dollars for strategic investments like gold ). The country may well already be, of course, surreptitiously building its gold reserves without reporting the build-up.

If the Chinese are indeed beginning to buy gold and silver as the quoted report suggests then this has to be a strong signal that prices are going to rise, and perhaps rise dramatically, in the relatively near future. We await comment from other China watchers for confirmation of the gold and silver buying spree, but with global gold production at best flat and probably in decline, even a small increase in Chinese buying could have a substantial impact on gold and silver prices.
 By Michael Miller

09/02/2009  7:52PM

Unlike most small gold companies, ours stays in business, paid dividends, expands its mineral claims and develops its properties by mining gold (small companies since the 1970’s usually sell stock, thereby diluting the shareholders). For several years our inventory assets) has been the source to pay the bills.

In addition to the variety of gold specimens, art pieces and jewelry in inventory, we occasionally pour gold dore from saw dust and gold crumbs. Dore is a natural unrefined product, which until a few years ago was sold to a refinery in Los Angeles. A local market took an interest in the dore and swallowed our modest supply. The supply may increase as the need for money continues and we crush specimens.

The thought hit me today, after reading the latest report from Bluejay , that some of you may like some dore. It sells at the spot price at the time of the order. We pour one to three ounce “buttons” marked with the date, weight and 16-1. (Dore is about .85 pure gold and .15 pure silver.) If no gold exists at the time of your order, you will be on a pre order list (chronologically) and called to confirm size and lock in a price before pouring a “button” for you. Credit cards accepted. Shipping and insurance not included.

Many people have asked about the mine bars we made between 1993 and 1998. The manufacturing cost presented some problems to some buyers, but the mini bars were made as fine jewelry. There were three sizes: quarter ounce, half ounce and one ounce. If you are interested in seeing these again, please write me with your thoughts on the subject.
 By bluejay

09/02/2009  1:25PM

Last on gold is $979.50.

The move on gold today is closely associated with the following article from Jim Sinclair.

Dear Comrades In Golden Arms,


All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
--Sun Tzu

Reported Chinese actions to unilaterally cancel OTC derivative loss debts held by state corporations whereby they purchased hedge contracts written by major American OTC derivative manufacturers and distributors is legally a unilateral novation. A novation declares an item to be invalid. Invalid means not valid. A contract which is not valid infers a form of a fraudulent contract.

Actions by the Chinese tend to follow and can be understood by learning the tenets of the teachings of Sun Tzu.

Had the West acted exactly this way rather than financing them to pay the winners when the hedge fund, Long-Term Capital, failed on OTC derivatives, there would have been financial problems but this event today would only be a modest recession and not a catastrophic depression.

MOPE(government BS) has blacked this event out while titanic pressure is being brought on the US to fall into line and pay off the winners in New York.

What happened here will pave the road of the future.

This is the most important economic event since the fall or shove into bankruptcy of Lehman.

Few understand.
 By bluejay

08/29/2009  11:00AM

Gold closed the weekend at $955.60

Antal Fekete writes another informative article relating to gold:

http://www.kitco.com/ind/fekete/aug282009.html
 By bluejay

08/29/2009  11:00AM

Gold closed the weekend at $955.60

Antal Fekete writes another informative article relating to gold:

http://www.kitco.com/ind/fekete/aug282009.html
 By bluejay

08/25/2009  10:41AM

cw3343

We're in a bad economy for the use of gold in selling luxury items and in purchasing gold for industrial applications. The World Gold Council, FYI, does not support gold 100%. The headline of your referenced Bloomberg story was, as is usual of the media, to deceive the public with their inferred questionable merits of gold ownership.

Last on gold is $944.00.

The following are excerpts from a recent article entitled, US Dollar Analysis -Sea Change Coming by Stewart Thomson which appeared on the goldseek.com website recently:

20. If the Dow rally fails and takes out the lows at Dow 6500, I will be a buyer of any and all price weakness as it chews into new low territory. In terms of the public, I believe that will mark “the end” for this generation of retail investors. Their pipedreams of the stock market as their personal “long term wealth builder” will be 100% destroyed. Mentally and emotionally broken, they will begin a complete and total liquidation of their holdings.

21. Here is another critical point: As the above occurs, the only question is whether the bankers want to see the carcass of money from the stk mkt then flow into the bond market first, and then to gold, or immediately from the stock mkt into the gold market. To move gold to say $1500-$3000, money from the stock market would easily do that. But a US dollar currency wipeout could see money flowing from paper currencies into gold on a mass scale, which would send gold to levels like $10,000, and perhaps much higher. Using the same calculations Jim Sinclair used to put a $900 target on gold in the 1970s now yields a possible target in excess of $30,000 an ounce for gold.

22. President Obama, Tim Geithner, and Ben Bernanke are all committed to sustained money printing and dilution of the US dollar. The key word there is “sustained”. All the chess pieces are in place for a massive revaluation of gold upwards against not only the US dollar, but against all the world’s paper currencies. Just as the central banks worked together to stick the taxpayer with trillions in worthless otc derivatives, they will the stick the taxpayer with US dollars just in time for them to watch it decline heavily.

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