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 By Michael Miller

10/01/2012  3:54PM

GOLD HEIST IN CALIFORNIA...see "NEWS" for story
 By bluejay

09/29/2012  7:07PM

James Corbett from this mornings International Forecaster has a few words concerning the UN annual meeting now taking place in NY:

Ahmadinejad's speech was surprising, but not in the way his speeches at past meetings have been surprising (or inflammatory). In fact, this year the consensus is that the fiery Iranian leader was surprisingly sedate. Rather than dwelling on the existential threat coming from the Israeli-American nexus and their sanctions, their ongoing cyberwar, their covert campaign of bombings and terror, and their constant threats to bomb all suspected nuclear sites to smithereens (and potentially irradiate the entire region in the process), he instead decided to talk about how “social relationships are guided by respect, kindness and love” and wax philosophic on how “the world over, people are kind and loving.” Naturally, the U.S., Israel, Canada and all the other right-thinking sensible nations couldn't bear to hear such rhetoric so they walked out in protest, as every year.

Exactly as expected, all of these speeches, and the many others that have been made in the past several days, have made good use of the typical buzzwords, platitudes and concepts that play well to the globalist crowd who are gathered for the festivities: “Rule of law.” “Community of nations.” “International legitimacy.” In other words, the kind of globalist claptrap that underlies the whole United Nations charade. It's easy enough to laugh this sort of rhetoric off as the insincere musings of a self-serving political class looking to bank some goodwill from the more naive sections of their local electorate. It is very disturbing, however, to realize they are deadly serious.

Take this news from the latest session: the United Nations is back at the drawing board, once again trying to create a new excuse to get its foot in the door with the first-ever global tax. It doesn't really seem to matter what the ostensible reason for the tax is. A tax on billionaires, a tax on currency speculation, the so-called Tobin tax on financial transactions, taxes on carbon emissions, taxes on airline tickets, royalties for any minerals dredged up more than 100 miles offshore of any nation's territorial waters. All of these ideas have been floated in recent months, and they will all be on the agenda at the 67th General Assembly.

This is nothing new, of course. There has been talk of taxes like these for years. But with each fresh round of discussion, the idea of a global, UN-administered tax becomes that much more normalized, as if it weren't the thin edge of the wedge of the rise of a truly global government. Of course, it's coming couched in feelgood terminology about “development” money to address “global problems” and to “meet needs in developing countries.” Who could argue with that? It would be like arguing with those sensible and reasonable congress critters who instituted the income tax on Americans in 1913 at the reasonable rate of 1%. Surely you can chip in 1% to help out your fellow man. It'll never get bigger or incentivize the political class to continue growing government as much as possible, we swear.
 By bluejay

09/24/2012  8:12PM

The Decline of California as folks pack it up for Texas, Nevada and Arizona.

http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_71.htm
 By bluejay

09/23/2012  5:04PM

It is expected that Mexico will produce more than 100 tons a year by 2017, as new projects ramp up to full production. Data from the Mexican Chamber of Mines showed that the country's production grew by 22% in the past year to 88.6 tons, making it the fastest growing country in terms of gold production.
 By bluejay

09/22/2012  11:02AM

The conclusion of the article written by James Corbett in this morning's International Forecaster is important to post here for all to get, totally, what's going on in Washington and Wall Street concerning your future as if you din't know already.

That's Neil Barofsky, aka the Voice of Reason. He's an NYU Law Professor, a former TARP Special Inspector, and the author of Bailout: An Insider Account of How Washington Abandoned Main Street While Rescusing Wall Street. Needless to say, he is not the head of the SEC, or the DOJ, or anywhere near any of the so-called government “regulators” who are supposed to stop this rampant criminality from happening in the first place...or at least prosecute it when it does take place.

And that's precisely the problem. The people in positions of power are naturally not going to press charges against anyone. That's how they get into the positions of power. Case in point: The top political donor to Chuck Schumer over the past 23 years? Goldman Sachs. Obama's largest contributor in his 2008 campaign? Goldman Sachs. Don't worry, though, if you're ready for change (and who isn't at this point?), you might be ready to vote Romney 2012. So is Goldman Sachs, who are now Romney's largest contributor. In fact, Goldman contributions to political candidates are double that of all contributions from the PACs.

But wait, here's the best part. After Goldman sells their MBS crud to their poor suckers clients, and after they then bet against those positions in the derivatives market, and after they earn back more money than they lost in the subprime collapse by shorting their own instruments, and after they and their bankster buddies bring the global economy to its knees, prompting trillions of dollars in bailouts from the Federal Reserve (backed up by the taxpayer), and after the world hovers on the brink of total collapse for year after year, what does Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke decide to do in order to 'boost the employment rate' (or so we're told)? He commits the Fed to turning on the printing press in order to buy $40 billion of mortgage-backed securities every month from the very types of institutions that created the entire mess in the first place. That's right, not content to let the banks literally get away scott free with the biggest financial fraud in the history of the world (well, until Libor, anyway), the non-Federal un-Reserve then promises to buy as much of that MBS garbage from those very same banksters as they can print, every month, for the rest of eternity (or until employment picks up, whichever comes first).

What other conclusion is possible? The system is bought and paid for. The candidates are controlled. The regulators are owned. The criminals are in bed with the investigators. The system is corrupt from top to bottom. But this is nothing that you don't already know.

Most people think that criminals are irrational. Mentally unhinged. Bumbling deviants whose actions are, for the most part, inexplicable. On the contrary. If anything, they are ultra-rational. After all, the most rational response to an irrational system may itself look fairly irrational, and if the so-called “regulators” have made it explicitly clear time and again that the only risk that the criminals will face for defrauding the public is a complete bailout, record bonuses, and entire programs designed to prop up the very system that was at the root of their crime, what else would a rational criminal do but commit ever more brazen crimes? In a system that has divorced itself from the rule of law, what separates the criminals from the law-abiding is not rationality, merely morality. And there is very little of that to be found in Washington or Wall Street when cold hard cash is so much easier to come by.

The principles are the same in all of the great financial heists of recent times. Take foreclosuregate. The list of crimes potentially committed by the banks is as lengthy as it is damning: accounting fraud, loan origination fraud, robo-signing, forgery, tax avoidance, perjury. No one knows how much money was made from the scams, because no one even knows (or will ever be able to trace) who owes what, or even who owns what. Rather than bring the perpetrators to justice for their blatantly, openly illegal actions, the Obama administration persuaded key state AGs to go along with a $25 billion settlement deal. Well, not really $25 billion. After credits for principal modifications (which come from the mortgages owned by investors) and refinancing money, only $5 billion will actually be paid out. But the banks agreed not to break the law again, right? So all's well that ends well. Unless you're one of the homeowners who had their contract rights flushed down the toilet in the process, in which case you may be entitled to receive a whopping $1500 to $2000 for the minor nuisance of having your home illegally foreclosed on, your good name and your credit rating tarnished forever, and your dignity discarded in the gutter. Nothing that a couple thousand dollars won't smooth over, surely.

Or take the Libor scandal, a.k.a. the largest financial fraud in history. It's so large that no one knows exactly how large it is. Estimates of the value of the instruments that are based on Libor rates (and thus affected by the rigging that has gone on in those rates for years) run into the hundreds of trillions. It all gets a bit hazy after that. And of course there's the question of exactly how much the rates were manipulated by, and on what days, multiplied by the millions of individual instruments affected by those rates. Given the variables involved, the problem of calculating how much money was swindled from lenders or borrowers on any given day (let alone over the life of the scandal) becomes literally insoluble. Sounds like the type of scandal that would lead to the trial of the century, right? The kind of event that would be reported on diligently by hard-hitting journalists and watched over closely by a concerned public. The kind of scandal upon which political dynasties would rise and fall, the details of which would be hotly debated across the land.

Fat chance. Barely a few months old, the scandal is already retreating into the back pages of the financial rags, and has all but disappeared from public view. Now it's emerging that the banksters have a plan for beating the rap on this investigation: waiting until it goes away. The idea is not as absurd as it sounds. Given statute of limitations clauses, all the Wall Street bigwigs have to do is put off the investigators until the clock runs out and they'll be off scott free, just like the Goldman gang with their MBS crud. In an attempt to head this off at the pass, the Justice Department is asking the banks to sign so-called “tolling” agreements to allow the DOJ to press charges after the statute of limitations runs out. One can imagine a similar scene in the prohibition era Chicago: “Oh, pretty please, Mr. Capone, won't you agree to let us prosecute you?” It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

All of this raises the question of why regulators are focusing their investigations on individual traders, anyway, rather than the institutions and executives who necessarily knew about the scandal and (at the very least) let it proceed? And are the so-called regulators really just gearing up to offer another “no admission of guilt, slap-on-the-wrist fine” sweetheart settlement to the banksters who are funding their bosses' political campaigns? One might as well ask a bear if he is planning to defecate in the woods. Sadly, the ending to this saga is a foregone conclusion. Some will lose their jobs. Some will pay fines. Some will grandstand and make political hay out of their supposed role in supposedly sticking it to the bad guys. But in the end, no one will go to jail.

The worst part of all of this is not that the criminals are committing their crimes. It's not that the politicians and regulators are in the criminals' back pocket and justice is nowhere in sight. It's that after each and every scandal the criminals and their cronies are able to make the case to the public that it all happened because the regulators just didn't have enough power. If we could just give more power to the regulators, if we could just get the right guys into political office, if we could just get the criminals to cooperate, then everything would be better. Sadly, so much of the public believes this, and are willing to go along with “reform” after “reform,” each one strangely failing to keep the banksters/criminals in check, and each one proceeded by bigger and yet bigger financial crimes.

Oh, crime pays alright. It might cost a bit to buy out the regulators and smooth the gears of justice, but in the end the criminals come out ahead. And that (combined with a complete lack of morality) is why they do it, again and again and again, and it's precisely why they will continue to do it until the public finally realizes that there is no regulator or politician going to come from the heavens to save the day and put everything back it its place. Maybe then they will finally, fully withdraw all of their business and support from the Big Banks and their cronies.

Still, it's a long way from here to there and there are too many people who are happy to go along with the system as it is because it's the only one they've ever known. It's enough to make you wonder: Where's The Shadow when you need him?
 By bluejay

09/22/2012  8:56AM

I guess it's who you know and whose political campaign you have handsomely contributed to. What else are we suppose to think?

From this morning's International Forecaster:

If only life were like an old-time radio drama. Unfortunately in this age of liar's loans and mortgagegate, robo-signing and QE Infinity, too big to fail and too big to jail, any pretense that the globalist financial system is based on the rule of law has long since been jettisoned. In the current environment, crime not only pays, it pays handsomely. And just as Adolf Hitler outlined the old principle of propaganda that 'the bigger the lie, the more likely people are to believe it,' the banksters of our age seem to have discovered a corresponding principle in the financial realm: the bigger the fraud, the more likely they are to get away with it.
Take the SEC/Goldman Sachs debacle from earlier this year. Back in February, Goldman received a Wells Notice. For those not in the know, a Wells Notice is a type of courtesy card from the SEC letting an institution know they may or may not be facing enforcement action for their alleged crimes. The charge in this case? Goldman's role in the mortgage backed security scam in the subprime mortgage crisis that led to the housing collapse of 2007 and the near total destruction of the global economic system. You know, that little problem? Goldman's role in this debacle was not a matter of conjecture. A Senate inquiry into the MBS scam laid it bare. As Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations Carl Levin put it in a statement from the inquiry:
“Investment banks such as Goldman Sachs were not simply market-makers, they were self-interested promoters of risky and complicated financial schemes that helped trigger the crisis. They bundled toxic mortgages into complex financial instruments, got the credit rating agencies to label them as AAA securities, and sold them to investors, magnifying and spreading risk throughout the financial system, and all too often betting against the instruments they sold and profiting at the expense of their clients.”
Those are some pretty heavy accusations. So what proof did the Senate have to back up those claims? Goldman's own words. “Sounds like we will make some serious money,” one senior Goldman manager emailed his colleague at the start of the crisis. “Yes we are well positioned,” his colleague responded, referring to Goldman's strategy to sell the AAA-certified toxic garbage subprime MBS to customers and cover their posteriors by betting against those very securities in the derivatives market.
Open and shut case, right? Surely this type of behaviour has to be made an example of. Surely the agency in charge of regulating the institutions at the core of the global financial system would not let this type of conduct go unpunished? Surely, even if the investigation was not to end up in the trial of the century it would, at the very least, result in hefty fines and crippling sanctions against the institutions that helped to bring about the mess. Surely, at the very very least, there would be an obligatory slap on the wrist after a lengthy, headline-grabbing show trial?
Surely not. Last month the SEC announced there would be no criminal charges at all against Goldman. The vampire squid was free to go about its business, sucking the blood from the real economy, wrapping its tentacles around the levers of finance and releasing its inky smoke trail to deflect any would-be prosecutors.
So what is a rational response to this irrational decision?
“On the sixth month anniversary of the announcement of the so-called financial crisis task force, the twin announcements yesterday that Goldman Sachs and its executives will not be charged by either the SEC or DOJ for conduct directly related to the toxic assets at the heart of the crisis is a stark reminder that no individual or institution has been held meaningfully accountable for their role in the financial crisis. And without such accountability, the unending parade of megabanks scandals will inevitably continue.”
 By Rick

09/21/2012  6:45PM

I'd never heard Rita Hosking sing before, a small pot-luck group-of-us pickin' in Joe-Bob's backyard.

Late in the evening, Sean suggested she sing one. She picked up a guitar and blew me away.

Wait...Rita sings? Okay, this'll be cool. Jay and Mary were there too.

I'd never heard a voice like that in my entire waking state, but had heard it in my dreams.

The longest most cherished years of my life, which amount to only two years there in a small mountain community below Hatchet Mountain, were the most impressive years of my life.

Rita's voice. Cutting, stark, beautiful, true, back porch.

She grew up just over the mountain.
 By Rick

09/17/2012  5:52AM

Crawling among the rubble with
Silence as my guide
Starkly more still
'Til I push the pile aside

Forever struck by the
Silence

Darker than dark when
I shut down the lamp.
Still. Silence.
Deep within this awesome mine!

Such times rarely come along
To stand among such glory
Of quartz and wet and rubble...
Yet beneath my feet
Quartz breaks the silence!
 By bluejay

09/16/2012  10:12AM

“If we have an economic crisis in the Western world it’s because the government makes up 50 percent or more of the economy. This is a cancer that is taking away people’s freedom."

Marc Faber
 By bluejay

09/13/2012  11:45PM

Martin Armstrong voices his opinions concerning recent Fed actions and it's not pretty.

http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/QE3%20Confirms%20the%20Economic%20Implosion/index.htm
 By bluejay

09/09/2012  10:03AM

Comments by G. Edward Griffin at the recent Casey-Sprott Summit in Carlsbad, California along with a few others:

Griffin makes no secret of his conviction that the Fed is a criminal organization, engaged in the legalized plunder of the American population. Through excessive money printing and the ensuing inflation, the Fed is basically imposing a massive tax. It's a stealth tax, says Griffin – but as old Will so aptly stated, a rose is still a rose by any other name.

The public, says Griffin, has been completely hoodwinked as to what's happening, namely that they are being robbed on a massive scale. Since the gold standard was abandoned in 1971, the dollar has lost 80% of its value. If this kind of larceny had been done out in the open – say, by the government imposing an 80% income tax for 40 years – we would have had another "Off with their heads" French Revolution in Washington a long time ago.

If Griffin's arguments left any shreds of trust in the US government, they were swept away by the Hoover Institute's Peter Schweizer. Schweizer, author of the instant best-seller Throw Them All Out, demonstrated how members of Congress can arrive in Washington as middle-class citizens and leave a few years later with millions in the bank. Their "secret of success": due to convenient loopholes, it is perfectly legal for our nation's finest to act and trade on insider information they hear in closed-door meetings. Accordingly, the crash of 2008 that nearly bankrupted many ordinary investors, says Schweizer, made a lot of legislators from both sides of the aisle a fortune.
 By bluejay

09/07/2012  11:14AM

South African government senselessly out of control

http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE88604D20120907
 By bluejay

09/06/2012  10:35PM

September 6, 2012
The words of Jim Willie

"The Hippocratic Oath dictates never to do harm to the patient. The central bankers instead take the Hypocritical Oath that dictates to cripple the patient, to drain the blood, to preserve power by tightening the straps, to erode buying power from hard work, and to render life savings a weak shell, while whispering lies in the ears on blame for what went badly wrong, against the background din of endorsed war themes. The effectiveness of the latter oath is seen in the systemic failure of the USEconomy, whose financial and economic structure has been destroyed by bad economic policy, the poor paper financial foundation from the monetary system, corrupt bond market practices marred by $trillion frauds, and a marriage between the state and sanctioned large corporations whose only efficiency is seen in dark corners protected by criminal impunity. The Fascist Business Model showed itself in bold terms in the 1990 decade, in the strengthened links between state and major corporations, where inefficiency, favoritism, and corruption produce the bitter fruit of a sclerotic financial structure and weakened body economic. The Gold price responds to the systemic failure of the ruinous financial and economic policy, aggravated by the devoted ghoulish doctors and their perverse solutions that neither fix anything nor attempt to apply remedy."
 By Rick

09/06/2012  6:59PM

Well, of course, Freedom is our driving force. Freedom to independently survive as individuals and develop independent goals we create with worthy partners.

Our mine is the pinnacle of free ambition, freedom from oppression, and when we find ourselves oppressed, we are the expressed definition of FREEDOM!

This isn't righty-lefty politics, although the ugly head of regulation does have an affiliation with one perspective...and we recognize the roll of regulation in its true intent (I won't get distracted here...simply move along acknowledging the obvious roll of true law-enforcement needs we all agree upon). Rest assured that FREEDOM is imperical, in all of our souls.

Yet FREEDOM! is under attack by our nemisis...unfettered crap regulation, etc, etc, etc. We know the drill...

The whole reason I've just started this topic is to focus...we need to preserve the freedom we've been so fortunate to have.

November is critical.
 By bluejay

09/06/2012  11:29AM

Jim Sinclair’s Commentary

On the subject of wealth and spirit:

Earning wealth is one of the legitimate objectives of human endeavor, without a doubt. It is one of the four objectives of every human life, the four being – righteousness, earning wealth, desire and liberation. The order they are mentioned in, has a purpose too. Righteousness has to direct and control the process of earning wealth and liberation has to be the regulating factor for one’s desires. All wealth accruing through unrighteous means is to be treated with contempt as unworthy. All desires that do not subserve the one supreme need for liberation are to be given up as beneath one’s dignity. So the spiritual basis of righteousness and liberation must be the root of both the pursuit of wealth and fulfilment of other desires.
–SSB 1966
 By Rick

09/05/2012  8:55PM

Wisdom in our eyes,
Wisdom in our eyes,
Wisdom in the vision,
Yeller below.

Wisdom in our call,
Wisdom in our falls,
Wisdom in our faith and vision,
Wisdom: yeller shows!

Inside, inside.
Deep inside we strive.
Strength of wisdom inside,
Strength when yeller shows.

Drill deep, drill deep,
Drill our vision's reap.
Inside, upside, inside, up,
Strength where yeller shows.

Banter above,
Faith below,
Faith in both the visions.
Banter above,
Faith below,
Faith where yeller flows.
 By Michael Miller

09/03/2012  12:34PM

I’ve placed my finger on the delete button for this topic more than once, moving its entries to Miscellaneous. But it survives another day, Labor Day. Daniel Webster penned a little ditty about labor:

“Labor in this country is independent and proud. It is not to ask the patronage of capital, but capital solicits the aid of labor.”

Longfellow wrote this short poem:

“Let us, then, be up and doing,
With a heart for any fate;
Still achieving, still pursuing,
Learn to labor and to wait.”

Twenty years ago I saw the personification of the labor force at the Sixteen to One and created a photo essay usually called a calendar. Printed for 1992, my mistake was not allowing adequate time to sell them. Many remain in their boxes unopened. The time was our “Go for the Gold” crew of twelve. The Company had just purchased the assets from our lessee, Royal Gold. I added some of its miners to our crew and off we went. The photographs are great shots with each miner underground at work; I saw the emblematic representation of an abstract quality by a human figure wearing a hard hat and cap light. I wrote 28 thoughts to represent mining gold in this unusual mine and honor our labor.

Here are two: “Exciting and dangerous, underground gold mining has long been a tradition in California. Miners are acutely aware of the risks which constantly surround them. They drill holes in solid rock 2000 feet beneath the earth’s surface. Those holes are filled with explosives, ignited, and then the surrounding hard rock ore is blown into bits. Mining combines high risk, pure chance and skill. We would not have it any other way.”

“Gold in the right hands is a peace keeping element that preserves freedom and the legacy of mankind. It is abused by man. In time, its strength reaches those who maintain responsibility for goodness.”

Abe Lincoln sure walked the blade edge of reason when he wrote, “By some it is assumed that labor is available only in connection with capital – but nobody labors unless somebody else owning capital, somehow, by the use of it, induces him to do it. But another class reasoners . . . holds that labor is prior to and independent of capital; that is; that, in fact, capital is the fruit of labor and could never have existed if labor had not first existed.”

Abe was a lawyer and a wise man.
 By Michael Miller

09/02/2012  9:53AM

I do not favor the idea of returning to a gold standard as it existed in the past. It will be ripe for manipulation. As a gold producer and a gold mining activist for 37 years, I favor the present free market pricing of gold. I like it and breathlessly await the time our small gold producing company regains its proven, gold mining operation. The current sales price for an ounce of gold is beyond my expectations. Actually, thanks to a splendid board of directors during the 1990’s, I have no expectations for the future price of gold. My belief in an outstanding future of Sixteen to One mine is grounded in its amazing gold deposit. We operated when gold was $300 per ounce, $450 per ounce, and its former long-time high of $810. Under the sage advice of Director Lee Erdahl, I copied his answer to the question, “What do you think the price of gold will be?” He said, “Well, there is one thing I know for sure. It will either go up or it will go down.” Thank you Lee, I have used that answer many times.

I do believe that an individual, household or business should have some gold or interest in a respectable gold mining company. The amount can be as little as a pennyweight. Even if it is only a token of one’s wealth, you will gain a benefit by knowing that you’re in-the-game. I know that most of our shareholders are not feeling that their shares will bail them out when the dollar is inflated. However, I know that those of you out there with an equity stake are walking a little taller as all this talk about currency, bank misconduct, Wall Street skullduggery, gold (as a financial savior and touted to reach $5,000 an ounce) continues. Our day will come. I remember what a Silicon Valley banker told me after he turned down an offer to check out our company (many years ago). He said, “Mike, you run a trailing edge business not a leading edge like most around here are familiar with. You run patient capital.”

While I don’t have expectations, I have hope.
 By David I

09/02/2012  2:13AM

I think realastate is a good investment, along with gold. By low as it is now. and just wait. It will go back up.
 By martin newkom

09/01/2012  10:23AM

If you have doubt about our system
arrange to buy gold bars either
refined or unrefined from Origsix
and stash them in a secret spot
but don't forget where you put them.

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